Chronically Living and how to make the most of it

Holistic Approaches to Chronic Pain with special guest Tanya Walker

December 06, 2020 Kelsey, Tanya Walker Season 1 Episode 25
Chronically Living and how to make the most of it
Holistic Approaches to Chronic Pain with special guest Tanya Walker
Show Notes Transcript

This week Tanya Walker tells us how an accident led to living with chronic pain. She shares how her own chronic pain journey took her down a path to helping others as a practitioners for emotional healing and certified pilates instructor with experience in rehabilitation and pain.
In this episode we talk about:

  • the traumatic effects of chronic pain
  • holistic approaches to healing
  • the mind-body connection
  • using tools such as breath work
  • self-love and the will to keep going

Guest Bio:

Tanya Walker is a soulcoach and practitioner for emotional healing who has experienced and understands chronic physical and emotional pain. Her methodology of using the mental, physical & spiritual body is instrumental for any form of healing, growth or manifestation because they are the three pillars of wholeness and the foundation of our human experience.
Her mission is to navigate women on their journey to self-love, overcome emotional obstacles and assist in finding solutions that work because we are all unique beings with a light that is meant to shine. "The way you love yourself will dictate how others treat you, the choices you make and the opportunities in life so when love is part of growth, healing and teachings - everything happens faster and you manifest sooner!" - Tanya

Kelsey Harris:

Welcome to the chronically living and how to make the most of it podcast. I'm Kelsey Harris, a chronic pain warrior here to inspire hope and strength to the spoonie community, get ready to lift each other up and find ways to live the best life possible. Welcome back to another episode of chronically living and how to make the most of it. This week, my guest is a chronic pain warrior, a wellness expert, a practitioner for emotional healing, and a certified Pilates instructor who has worked with in rehabilitation and pain. Tonya Walker is going to share her story with of chronic pain and how she inspires others to live their best lives. Tanya, thank you for coming on the show.

Tanya Walker:

Thank you so much for having me. I'm truly honored to to be a part of this journey and helping others.

Kelsey Harris:

Amazing. I'm really excited because not only are you a chronic pain warrior, but you also work with people with chronic pain. So it's kind of getting the best of both worlds here.

Tanya Walker:

Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, having been through chronic pain, having lived in chronic pain for so many years, I felt that there's there's just massive components missing in somebody's healing journey. I'm not saying that the conventional modalities don't work. They certainly do. But they didn't work for me.

Kelsey Harris:

Right. Okay, so let's get started. And maybe you can just tell us about your journey with chronic pain. I know you were in an accident, that led Twix, can you tell us what happened?

Tanya Walker:

Yeah, for sure. So, at present, I'm a 54 year old woman. And I have always led a very healthy life fit healthy diet. And I was always optimistic. My cup since I was a child was always half full. And I lead a full life as a married woman, as a mother of two children. I had fantastic friends wonderful life experiences. And what happened to me is a little unconventional. I went for an eyebrow waxing, and the table broke below my scapula, which are my shoulder blades. So the table drop down. And I was probably about three or more feet off the ground. And so I went in reverse, and I hit the back of my head and the occiput area and my upper back, which is the thoracic spine. And I found myself on my side on the floor. Basically, I was fine. I laughed it off, got up and went to see my girlfriend, and pretty much had no recollection of being there having driven myself there. And I woke up the next day in bed and couldn't move. Here And yeah, so in essence, I ended up after after you know MRIs and CAT scans and all the diagnostics that we're lucky enough to have in diagnosing I had severe soft tissue damage. So I didn't have any structural damage, like my vertebrae, but I had soft tissue damage. And then I was diagnosed with with a brain injury after that. And so as time wore on, I just actually got worse and worse and worse. My memory was horrible. I would find my keys in the freezer, my wallet in the pantry, I had very obscure behavior that nobody would know unless they lived in the close confines of my home with me. I remember driving my daughters to school, they were then seven and five. And I found myself on the outskirts of town sitting in the cemetery with my kids in the backseat. And just as her horrified look on my daughter when I finally looked at her in the rearview mirror asking in her little voice Mummy, where are we? And so there was just a lot of a lot of that Not to mention all the chronic pain, the headaches, the weakness, the exhaustion, I developed bladder issues because of the impact of the reverse fall. Yeah, so there was surgery there and massive personality changes depression. And to be honest with you, I became a victim of my pain. I became a victim and it actually began to define me. And it was a horrible place to be.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah, I bet. You know that. I mean, I think a lot of people don't even realize how much goes along with chronic pain and all of that as well. So it's great that you pointed that out. How did your healing journey begin? How did your healing journey begin?

Tanya Walker:

So, my healing journey began, I would say mostly It began with mindset. I found that I was having to pick myself up time after time after time and to be honest, there was time that I was so low and so consumed by my pain. I couldn't stand being in my own skin. So I tried a lot of different conventional therapies. And I found that they were all a little too aggressive for where I was, they all dealt with the physical aspect of my injury. But none of them addressed the spiritual, the mental aspect, any of that. So I found myself having a physiotherapist and acupuncturist going for massage, and also seeing a psychologist to talk about the woe is me that I was experiencing day after day. So I'd say my real healing journey began when I discovered this very gifted osteopath in, in my town, and she just had that, that sixth sense that I found very, very attracted on top of the fact that she had very gifted hands. And there was just a kindred connection between her and I. So I think a large part of healing means that you have to be able to trust the person whose hands you're in. And you have to be able to be your authentic self, knowing that there's good days and bad days and not to constantly choke down those emotions. But to let the tears flow. It's okay to feel right.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Tanya Walker:

Because when you're when you're alone in this world of pain, physical pain, emotional pain, it's mental pain, spiritual pain. It's everything that we embody. And you're gonna have really crappy days.

Kelsey Harris:

Mm hmm.

Tanya Walker:

And so having someone that you trust is really important.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah, for sure.

Tanya Walker:

So I'd say that the biggest shift was in my mindset, when it was like, okay, Tanya, like enough of this, what you're doing isn't working for you. So on top of the osteopathy, I had to create changes with my myself. So I had to shift from a fixed mindset, to a growth mindset. And what that meant for me was that I needed to accept what was happening to me what had happened, and mourn the loss of who I used to be and the life that I had, and accept where I am now and be very, very present. So that mindfulness combined with introspection, I would say was was a pivotal, pivotal point in healing.

Kelsey Harris:

Amazing. Yeah, it totally makes sense. I think. mindset is very underrated sometimes.

Tanya Walker:

Right. And I actually ended up working with this incredible woman as her physio Therapist Assistant with others who had chronic pain and needed rehabilitation. And I was fortunate enough to work with, with this amazing rogue physiotherapist that we have here in Canada, and I attended some courses with him. And he really dove into the chronic pain is in your brain. Hmm. So really working with neuroplasticity, which is as a soul coach, something that I work with no matter what your goal is to see me But yeah, so the neuroplasticity was key, right? is making making that shift and rewiring your thoughts.

Kelsey Harris:

Right? Okay. What you're describing is a really holistic approach, because you're looking at kind of like a medical aspect, and then also like spiritual and mindset and stuff. Can you tell us about how this type of approach is more beneficial than maybe just going after a medical approach?

Tanya Walker:

Yeah, sure. So first of all, I don't want to discount the medical approach, because I don't feel qualified that I can. But I am a firm believer in the holistic approach, because I feel that we are just more than a physical, a physical body, right, our body is our container for everything else. So when someone takes a holistic approach, and you can feel their energy, that they really are passionate about healing others or helping people manifest, whatever that is, it's approaching the person as a whole entity in combining what I like to call the three pillars in this incredible trilogy of the mental body, the physical body, and the spiritual body. Because if you have had a physical injury, or a physical illness, that is going to affect you emotionally, that is going to affect you mentally, that is going to affect your spirit and how you view the world. So healing in my opinion, should encompass those three pillars. Right. I'm not saying necessarily all at once. I really believe that beginning with with the mental body is imperative, because we need to start restructuring our neural transmissions right and, and the way that we're looking at our pain. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So yeah, and I mean, you know, I I found that the holistic approach really allowed me to make that shift. Right and to really tap into that, that spiritual side. That was that was waiting to be tapped into. I knew it was there. I just didn't know Know how to bring it out. And when I talk about spirituality, I don't want that to be confused with religion, right? Because there's no rules around spirituality. Spirituality is just about your heart. And it's about love. And when I talk about love, it's self love. Right? Right.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah. Actually, kind of reminds me of something I read quite a while ago about spirituality where the writer said, you know, even if you believe in, you know, your Star Wars fan, do you believe in the force? Like that counts as spirituality? And I was like that, because I'm not religious. So I was like, resonates with me. I like Star Wars. Yeah. Like, it doesn't really matter what what you believe, but it's something outside yourself?

Tanya Walker:

Yeah, absolutely. It's something outside of yourself. So for me a lot of it is about is about energy. Because scientifically, we know we're energy. So that helps a lot of my clients when I'm when I'm able to explain things that way. So I think it's more Where were the ways of the Eastern meeting the ways of the West. Right. Right. You know,

Kelsey Harris:

Totally, yeah. And then how does the mind body connection kind of play into this? Like, what does it mean to you? And how does it relate to chronic pain?

Tanya Walker:

Yeah, so that's a great question. Thanks for asking that. I think when it goes back to the beginning of my journey, I was not connected to my body in any way, shape, or form. It was just either something felt really great, or something felt really crappy. And so when it comes to healing the mind body connection is it's vital, because it means that there's an awareness of what you're feeling. And when you're living in chronic pain, most of us are constantly thinking we're in pain. So there's a lot of people who aren't able to recognize when they're having those good moments, or those lesser than moments, right. So it's about taking the winds. So you want to be able to connect your mind to your body, and really get into what's called the felt sense, which I learned a lot about in a book by Peter Levine called Waking the tiger. It talks about felt sense, and our bodies are continuously communicating to us. I mean, this is where the answers are. This is, when you're connected, you have that beautiful energetic flow, we have the ability to release, we have the ability to create healthy neural pathways, we have the ability to regenerate healthy cell growth. So as long as we're caught up in our minds, which is where the negativity is, we're really blocking a lot of the sensations that we're meant to feel in our bodies. Right. And I would say that as a Pilates instructor for chronic pain, I could physically see a lack of that connection in my classes, even though I was constantly giving them verbal cues, and permission. If you have a sore neck, don't lift your head in an abdominal curl, just use the breath work. But we have this way, I'm really trying to fight through things. Right, right, instead of giving ourselves permission to just to just be Hmm,

Kelsey Harris:

yeah, totally makes sense. Where so where are you now with your chronic pain journey.

Tanya Walker:

So I would say I'm almost practically healed. I can feel a lot of pain still, when I find myself in stressful situations. For instance, at this moment, I'm back in Canada, because I do primarily live in Costa Rica. And just coming back into this, this energy of stress that we have here, I could feel that in my body. Even though there wasn't anything stressful going on, particularly in my life, I could feel that just the fast paced the traffic, the sounds, all of that. So that was a reminder for me. Okay, I need to, to come back home, come back home to myself, right? Yeah. So I do a lot of pain prevention. I have my daily practices, and I do a lot of pain prevention, I make sure that I move my joints in multi directional movements. Because typically all we do is we get up we get down, we bend forward, we stand up. Mm hmm. So our spine is meant to move in multi directions. Our joints are meant to move in multi directions. So I also learned as as being a physiotherapist, instructor, is that we have to move. Even if there is some pain, we have to move our bodies. And so that was something that I that I practiced, and it was really, really small, small steps in the beginning until I was able to have full range of motion.

Kelsey Harris:

Wow. Yeah. Awesome. And you describe yourself as a soul coach. You mentioned earlier so what exactly does that mean?

Tanya Walker:

So a soul coach. Yeah. Yeah, my journey of chronic pain has led me to become a soul coach, because first I worked with the physical as a Pilates instructor, and then I became a practitioner for emotional healing in the realm of somatic emotional healing. So bringing things from the subconscious up to the conscious, really breaking down the body armor, emotional suppression. And basically what happened was that just evolved, that evolved into people coming in for sessions with me private sessions, and really getting a lot out of hearing what I had to say what I had to share, teachings, tools, all of that. And really, a soul coach is working with those with that trilogy with those three pillars of the mental, physical and spiritual body. Because there's a lot of coaches out there, and I'm not putting putting anybody down. But there's a lot of coaches out there that, that, you know, you take a course and you're mandated by what your course tells you, you can do. And for me, we're all unique, beautiful, unique creatures, you know, and we come with very, very different experiences. So what you need, in your experience may not be what somebody else needs in the same type of experience.

Kelsey Harris:

Right?

Tanya Walker:

Right. So it's really about working, working with a person in their wholeness in who they are as a human being and, and as as light.

Kelsey Harris:

That's, that's really cool. And I like I like very individualistic approaches, because as you mentioned, everybody is unique. So what would working with you look like? I mean, obviously, it's gonna be tailored to each individual, but he kind of gives some examples.

Tanya Walker:

Yeah, for sure. So I want to say working with me is completely relaxed and comfortable. If you know, we're not in COVID. And we can do things one on one, I'm like, Hey, you know, what do you want to get down on the floor and a bunch of pillows Do you want to like lay on my massage table? Do you want to sit in my comfy chair, let's have some candles, going some gentle music, like, let's just create a really calming atmosphere. And even if it's virtual, like, Hey, you want to show up on camera, in your video session in your pajamas, I'm so cool with that, I just want you to be who you are in your authenticity and be completely comfortable. So what I like to do in the beginning, is I like to share, I think it's really important when you're working with someone that you are connected to them. And so somebody is just constantly telling me about themselves and where they're at, and they can't connect to my heart. Or, you know, what I've been through there, that puts a divide between two people. So I really want people to know that I'm human, and they're human, and that it's okay. And I like to educate people, about their body, about the mind body connection about the trilogy, and the importance of those three pillars for healing journey, or for manifestation or pertaining even to healthy relationships, whatever it is, and to know that, that we are unique, and then I like to dive into the central nervous system, I want to find out a little bit of history, because we carry ancestral burdens forward in our central nervous system. And so that depends what mechanism you're going to naturally go to, are you going to go into the fight response, the flight response or the freeze response. And that is crucial in someone's healing journey.

Kelsey Harris:

Mm hmm. For sure.

Tanya Walker:

that makes a big difference, because you can have two people have the exact same injury at the exact same time on the exact same day. And in three weeks, you might be up and walking around. And I might be stuck in that chronic pain years later, and not able to get out of it. Right. So we want to have a nervous system that has ebbs and flows, right that that's resilient. So a lot of it will we'll be working with that as well. And then yeah, working on with the physical, the mental and the spiritual body and giving those those transformational tools. I'm all about homework, like to give people homework. So in between sessions, they can go home, and they can practice this.

Kelsey Harris:

Right? That makes sense. What, what are some examples of transformational tools that you would suggest using

Tanya Walker:

breath work. It's free. It's, you know, the autonomic system, it you know, Unless Unless you're diagnosed with a breathing disorder, or breathing illness, then it's just something that we take for granted. Mm hmm. So it might be connecting to your breath, and really feeling with gratitude for that gift. Maybe you're laying in bed and you're having a crappy day because your body is so riddled with pain, that you can find some positivity in a moment of gratitude of knowing that you're alive, and that you have this gift of breath. And there's many different types of breath, right? There's ej, there's hypo presa. There's all But just bringing your attention to that breath, will, will bring you to homeostasis in your body. It'll bring that calmness. And when you have that calmness, you'll find that you're slowly coming out of muscular contracture. And that is what chronic pain does to us as it keeps us in the state of contracture. So you can have these tools of prevention, and practice them constantly throughout the day. And also use them while you're in flare ups are going through a really, really rough time. So yeah, gratitude, journaling, sound making sound because sound moves energy out of our body, which is why we yell when we're angry. When we stub our toe, we feel better. So there's so many constructive ways that we can use these beautiful free gifts that are all within us. It's just learning how to use them.

Kelsey Harris:

Right? Yeah, that totally makes sense I'm going to share with everybody kind of the conversation you and I had before we started recording is because you were asking me about my hip injury. And you suggested that I strengthen my core by using breath work, which I thought was really cool. And something I hadn't really heard of before. And it's something I'm definitely going to try going forward. Because, you know, like you said, having a strong core is important for healing. So

Tanya Walker:

yeah, so if I have your permission, I'd like to share this with your with your listeners, because this is a great valuable tool. So we have our core muscles. And when we have chronic pain, and we're unable to go to the gym, or to run or to do those things, we go into atrophy, and we're still stuck in that muscular contracture because we're resisting pain. So you can gently Breathe in through the nose, and exhale without soft warm through your mouth, and just pull your belly button in, not pull it in for dear life, just pull it in a little bit. And what that's going to do is you're going to feel your pelvic floor activate. And you're going to activate the inner core muscles that are instrumental in healing. So if you're someone who's in bed all day, do that a few times a day, keep your core strong, because when your core is strong, you know, we can support our head, our spine can support our head, because it's all spine support.

Kelsey Harris:

Right? Yeah, totally makes sense. I love it's great advice. So okay, I know, I know, there are listeners out there who, who really only have like, certain, you know, amount of hours a day that they can even really get up and move around. So this is something great, but like you said they can do in bed.

Tanya Walker:

Yeah, and to be gentle on yourself, right? To know, your limits. Like for someone starting, they might begin with just three of those breaths a day, right? It's not it's not a race. It's not a race. It's an individual journey. And, and I learned that the hard way, because I really would push myself and then I would just exacerbate myself and I find myself back in bed for four days. And you know, in my little pity party who hasn't done that? Right, who hasn't done that? Right. And, and, and acknowledging it, acknowledging it as part is part of the human experience, because we resist so much. So acceptance, acceptance is so valuable when when you want to heal, to just accept where you're at, and take those small wins and celebrate them without putting yourself down and being in the future wanting to get to that finish line.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah, for sure. Earlier you mentioned that you move to Costa Rica, which I love Costa Rica I went there and occasion it was just like the most amazing place. So why why did you decide to move there? And I know you do some retreats and stuff down there. So what what inspired all that?

Tanya Walker:

Yeah, so actually was a family it was a family vacation that we went down to Costa Rica I had wanted to give my girls and experience somewhere they've never been I didn't know anyone who had really been there before. So I literally googled, I'm embarrassed to say I googled Costa Rican beaches with no riptides because we're not swimmers. And these two beaches came up and I'm like, okay, that's where we're going. So we spent one week in one place and two weeks in the other place. And the second place, I would go to the beach every morning and meditate. And on my way home on my bicycle. I literally had what's called an awakening. I had heard that term before. And I thought it was for those people, those woowoo people. And now it was happening to me. And basically what I did was I got back to my rental house and I told my family I was quitting my job. I was opening my private practice, and I was coming back. This was in January, and I was coming back for the month of April, and nobody could stop me. It was that powerful. And so that's what I did. I went back for the month of January. Not knowing anybody there and not knowing why I was there. And I just kept asking my higher self, why am I here? Why am I here, and it said, you're going to open a retreat company, and you're going to bring women down from Canada, and you're going to heal them. And so that's exactly what I did. And the next time I went down, I said, I would really like to own land here, but I can't afford it. And then a small piece of property fell within my budget. So I purchased it. And long story short, I sold 90% of my belongings, and I went down with my massage table, two suitcases. And I built a very tiny property completely alone in a country. I didn't speak the language or know anybody, but that was also part of me walking my walk as a coach, because if I'm going to empower you, I need to have done the work myself. Right. So I went down there, and then women were coming down to work with me and, and in this very soulful, very high energy environment. That was very, very conducive to healing. Hmm.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah, for sure. I know, my experience in Costa Rica was only for a couple weeks. But my friend and I and my friend that I went with, she was also a guest on the show, but she has a lot of allergies. And, and then, of course, with my, my condition, and we both felt we were healthier down there than we had ever been in Canada, just based on, on eating and the lifestyle and the weather. And everything really contributed a lot to both of our health, which was amazing,

Tanya Walker:

right, so so where where I built my property was in what's called a Blue Zone, and there's five Blue Zones in the world. And this is where people live the longest or the healthiest and are the happiest. So I was just, I was just navigated navigated there. And, and I do teach, I do teach that mind body connection. And along with that Mind, Body connection comes inner wisdom. Mm hmm. And there's people that are afraid to listen to that inner wisdom. Because at the end of the day, you know, what's right, and you know what's wrong, it's like walking into a room, you can feel that energy and know if that's for you, or it's not, right and tapping into that, that inner wisdom was something that was very, very valuable to my getting in alignment, as a healer, as a soul coach, to help empower other women.

Kelsey Harris:

Make sense? Yeah. So I guess either pre COVID or post COVID, kind of going forward, what would someone want to expect from participating in one of these retreats with you.

Tanya Walker:

So, being your complete, unapologetic, authentic self is key, as long as you're not living, not you. But as long as someone is not living in authenticity, you're hindering your healing journey, because you may be continuing to people, please, you may continue to live in an environment that is not healthy for you, where your emotional needs are not met. So it's really about Becoming Empowered in who you are in your own personal and unique experiences. And to know that you're in a safe space, whether it's a retreat, or it's even an online virtual session, you are in a safe space that holds absolutely no judgment. And it just holds support and unconditional love. And so, I like to teach the value of the chakras, how they affect the mind, body and soul, how they affect our health, how they affect our decisions. work with people to find where they're blocked, how I mean, there's, we all have inner child healing work to do, let's let's be honest, right? based upon negative experiences from our childhood, whether it be traumatic or not, it's still it's still lingers inside of us. So really learning about yourself and getting into introspection. It's like it just helps you shed those layers. And before you know it, you're just you're feeling joyful, you're feeling lighter, you're able to attain those goals with no matter what those goals are. It just helps you get closer.

Kelsey Harris:

Right? Yeah. Awesome. And as a chronic pain warrior, how are you making the most of your life right now.

Tanya Walker:

So I have to say that I'm really using my tools. There's not a day that goes by where I don't use my tools of prevention. I listened to my body. I listened to the felt sense. I I have really learned to recognize my triggers. Because triggers are huge when it comes to chronic pain. Stress is huge when it comes to chronic pain. And what's what are the stresses that are helping you know, keep that chronic pain alive because chronic pain it doesn't want to go anywhere. It wants to keep you exactly where you are. So becoming fearless. Becoming vulnerable is really challenging for a lot of us. Learning how to ask for help, is really, really difficult for us. But if you have a really good tribe, behind you, even one sole person in your soul tribe, that person is going to be there to support you. And I think one of the most difficult things for people is there's a, there's a lack of emotional intelligence around us. There's a lack of emotional awareness, and people don't know how to show up. Right? Because we're not taught. They'll say, Well, you know what, like I offered, so just ask, well, then you know, what, if someone has offered then ask, don't be ashamed to ask love yourself enough. So I use all these tools of prevention, I keep my cup half full, I really try to find that balance. I do my spiritual practices every day, because they help especially during this time in COVID.

Kelsey Harris:

as a practitioner, how do you inspire your clients to make the most of their lives?

Tanya Walker:

Well, I have to say that I've been lucky enough to have my clients share their their souls with me. And I can honestly say that I derive my inspiration from them, I derive my inspiration from where I used to be in a place that I couldn't possibly imagine getting to where I am today. So I derive my inspiration from my growth mindset from constantly looking at my cup as being helpful. And I can I can share that it was probably a few years back, I was given a rich, I was giving a retreat in Costa Rica and I fell very, very sick, very sick. And I actually thought I was dying, like, very, very dehydrated, and they were thinking whether to call a helicopter to airlift me out. And as the doctor in the clinic in Costa Rica, fantastic service, by the way, was talking to me, I remember just closing my eyes and being very grateful for this moment. And really filling up with gratitude and saying how precious life is and how thankful I am. And that I'm going to trust in the process, and I'm not going to freak out. And that I am going to believe that everything's going to be okay, and everything's gonna work out the way as it should. So I'm just going to trust in that process. So I get a lot of my inspiration from from mindset and from others. And, to be honest, just a lot of behaviors, just from human behavior, where people are lacking that emotional wherewithal to really see the bigger picture. Because we're coming from a place of limiting belief, we're coming from a place of all we know from being conditioned. So we're not coming from a place of consciousness, we're not coming from a place of seeing things as they really are. We're seeing things just as we know them to be. And so when you open when you tap into that, and you open yourself up, your healing can propel because you're more accepting of what is. So you're living in acceptance versus resistance you're living in, you're living in reconstruction rather than destruction. Awesome, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I would say self care and self love. I inspire from from self love, how to set emotional boundaries, how to live in accordance with your values, how to let go of those limiting beliefs, and to truly not stop trying don't don't give up. Don't I could have been so easy for me to give up, just to throw in the towel. But I had to believe that there was something out there that could help me.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah, that's, that's amazing. That's great advice. And where can we follow you on social media?

Tanya Walker:

Oh, thanks for asking that. You can follow me on Instagram. Under Tonya Walker wellness, you can follow me on Facebook, I have an open page where there's a ton of videos of soul coaching from all kinds of topics. Tanya Walker wellness, you can go to my website, Tanya Walker, wellness.com. Awesome. And, you know, and my goal is to just help others get to where they want to be in their chronic pain, journey, their emotional journey. It's all it's all tied into one. You know, we can't separate it. It's all tied into one and and we all deserve to feel whole. We all deserve to feel loved. And we all deserve to be supported without judgment.

Kelsey Harris:

Absolutely. Tanya, thank you so much for coming on today.

Tanya Walker:

Thank you so much for having me. It was fun and I think you're doing some really beautiful stuff here. The world needs it and the world needs more people like you in it right now.

Kelsey Harris:

Thank you so much. Yeah. And to all my amazing chronic illness and chronic pain listeners, thank you for tuning in and keep making the most of it.

Tanya Walker:

Absolutely.

Kelsey Harris:

Thank you so much for joining me today on the chronically living podcast. If you love this week's podcast, please subscribe, rate and leave a review. Until next week, stay strong.