Chronically Living and how to make the most of it

The Essentials of Health with special guest Dr. Stephan Bohemier

September 20, 2020 Kelsey, Dr. Steph Bohemier Season 1 Episode 14
Chronically Living and how to make the most of it
The Essentials of Health with special guest Dr. Stephan Bohemier
Show Notes Transcript

My friend and doctor of chiropractic, Dr. Steph stops by for Part 1 of this 2 part interview to tell us about the essentials of health.
In this episode we talk about:

  • Dr. Steph's background and entry into chiropractics
  • The 5 Essentials to Health
  • The health care systems in the U.S. and Canada

Guest Bio:

Dr. Steph grew up in chiropractic. He is one of over 40 chiropractors in his family and knows first hand the benefits of living the five essentials for a lifetime. He has been adjusted since birth, is Webster Certified, and has thrived without ever needing a medication.He is passionate about educating patients about the power of chiropractic and how the power that made the body heals the body.

Instagram: @drsteph_
Email: [email protected]

Kelsey Harris:

Welcome to the chronically living and how to make the most of it podcast. I'm Kelsey Harris, a chronic pain warrior here to inspire hope and strength to the spoonie community, get ready to lift each other up and find ways to live the best life possible. Hey everyone, thanks for tuning in. I have an amazing episode for you this week. I have the first part of an interview with Dr. Steph Buemi, a, an amazing chiropractor who's going to tell you all about in this episode, the central health and next week why you need a chiropractor. Stay tuned. All right, welcome to chronically living and how to make the most of it. I am very excited about my guest this week, Dr. Stephen Boyd. He is a longtime friend of mine. I've actually known him for about I think eight years now we met in Los Angeles. He was my roommate for a little bit. And he's a doctor of chiropractic. Thank you so much for coming on the show stuff. Thank you for having me. I'm honored. Oh, no problem. So let's talk about your career path. So you've had a quite a journey. Can you tell us how you became a chiropractor?

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

Yeah, absolutely. Definitely not your average career path. For sure, because, one, I come from one of the largest family of chiropractors in the world. So there's, there's over there's well over 40 doctors of chiropractic in my immediate family. And so you can say that I was born into it, quite literally. And my father was a chiropractor, and most of my uncles and my aunts, and then now, like, several of my cousins have followed suit in their parents, career paths and have become chiropractors themselves. And so I'm a second generation, chiropractor. And you Yeah, so I'm number 46. Number 46. In my family, and it was a long journey. When when we met you, like you had said, We met in Los Angeles, I had kind of put my career path on hold at that point, I had, by that point, I had received a Bachelors of Science degree from the University of Manitoba in microbiology, mainly as was my interest studying the microbial world. So bacteria, viruses, fungus, I was very busy in the lab, doing all kinds of studies in that world and a little bit of chemistry and, and, and physics, you know, and math put in for good measure to round out the bachelor's degree. And at the end of it, I just, I just didn't want to continue with another four years of intensive studying without going and trying a few different things. You know, before I became a doctor, I knew that once once I became a doctor, and I had, you know, patients in front of me that were suffering, I wasn't going to go and you know, spend half my time doing something else that I was itching to do and that so I kind of put everything on pause. And you knew me as Steph the actor, and the performer. And so after four years of undergrad, I just put that on hold temporarily, I knew I would go back, but I put that on hold and I moved out west, move to Vancouver, Canada first and I enrolled in a professional acting school, the the Vancouver Academy of Dramatic Arts, which is a phenomenal, you know, school to go to if you're, you know, a young Canadian actor looking against some, some excellent, excellent, you know, skills in, in that field. So I went there, and I studied for a couple of years, and I did, you know, did the whole I got an agent and I did a whole bunch of musical theater and I did a whole bunch of regular theater and commercial auditions and student films. And then I the opportunity came up to move to Los Angeles and continued studying and classes down there. And that's where we met you. You came down or, you know, I remember you were exercising that side of your self as well down there and you know, going off and taking classes and performing arts and screenwriting and I, you know, so after almost five years in Los Angeles, I decided to go back to school and it was never It was never a matter of you know, if I was going to go back and become a doctor of chiropractic, it was just a matter of when I already knew that from the time I was a teenager, I had seen the transformations in some of my, my father's, you know, patient, his clinic, his patients I'd seen, you know and heard about these amazing transformations in people's health, of course, in my family members, every family reunion, all we talked about was health and healing and vitality. And and everyone, you know, being a chiropractor, that's just all we ever were taught, was the amazing, amazing potential of the human body to heal if you just like get out of its way it's designed to heal. And so that's what we were taught, you know, from day one. And about five years into my time in Los Angeles. And about this is about 11 years now, 11 years into my acting career. I had just I guess you could say I'd had enough,

Kelsey Harris:

right,

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

I wanted a change. I wanted to maybe not struggled with paying the rent every month. It's fair. You know, I remember one time, there was there was literally a few months where there was rationing of happening. Luckily, you came down and became a roommate that that kind of helped divide the summer rent, for sure. So that was definitely appreciative, you know, on top of the friendship that was developed, but yeah, it was just time it was I was in my, I was approaching my mid 30s. And, you know, when you're 34 years old, and you're, like, some months, quite literally starving. You know, you kind of start thinking and dreaming about, you know, a different type of life. And given that I knew I was gonna go back into, you know, and become a chiropractor. chiropractor at some point, I just decided, Okay, well, now, now's the time, I always told myself when I, you know, if ever you wake up and you're not having fun doing what you're doing anymore, it's time for a change. And that's great advice. Yeah. Like, go after your dreams go hard. Do what you're passionate about, you know, you'll enjoy your life, regardless of what you're going through in your life, you'll you'll, you'll enjoy waking up in the morning, regardless, if you're doing something you're passionate about. And if ever comes a time where you wake up in that thing, it's that fire is just no longer burning. Well, it's time to reevaluate, and otherwise, otherwise, well, you know, the depression will start to set in the anxiety, the, you know, the fear, the just like, the the resentment, you know, the, and relationships start to suffer. And if you're not enjoying your life, which that's a big part of being healthy. You know, like, totally, you know, you and I have talked about, you know, stress and how that affects, you know, one's health and the expression of symptoms. And, you know, I certainly, I can't say that, you know, I was super happy and joyful. Near the end of that, you know, 11 years, certainly, I did a lot of fun things, I would never, ever take it back. Who knows, I might go back to acting one day, you know, after I retire. You know, but I can honestly say like, my health, my mental health, in those last couple of years was definitely suffering. My self esteem and all of that, you know, so the best move, not only for my, for my outlook on life in my mental state and my health physically in which was starting to, you know, suffer because of that. And I had always been extremely healthy my whole life, you know, growing up in a chiropractic family that all we did was talk about health, you know, taking that downturn was was shocking to me. So when I made the decision, it's like a huge, huge weight was taken off, and decided to go to school, and finish for more years. So, you know, of training and got my doctorate degree and practiced a little bit in the state of Florida for some additional post grad training, nice for about a year of post grad, training and education down there at a couple different clinics, which really, really taught me a lot about advanced spinal correction techniques, if you will, non non surgical, advanced spinal correction, we saw some really tough cases down there. I got to work with some extremely experienced doctors that had seen it all and done it all, if you will. And so in a very short amount of time, I got more experienced than most chiropractors get in there in their first five years of practice. So I took that experience and here I am now in Michigan, I'm working out of just the absolute best possible clinic that I ever could have landed in and been hired, I feel so blessed to have been hired by these wonderful people here that took me under their wing and, you know, gave me a job, you know, and I right away out the gate, I was seeing a lot of patients and the clinical experience I developed and the amount of different cases that, you know, came came that, you know, come through these doors here at one of the one of the busiest health clinics in all of West Michigan. And so we're a team of four doctors here at rivertown, family chiropractic, it's within a larger network of doctors called max living. So I belong to the max living, I guess, group of doctors, if you will, it's it's a group of like minded, you know, doctors that for the most part, have have additional training and advanced spinal correction we look at, we look at each case a little differently than then your average chiropractor, I would say, which is why, which is also why we get, you know, better results than your average chiropractor because we, we apply what we call are the five essentials of human health to every case, we recognize that the body is self healing and self regulating. And you have that ability from the time you're born to the time you die, you die, you you always have that innate intelligence that's within your body that that guides all healing. And what needs to happen when you when you you know, you come across a sick person is you have to figure out what's interfering with that normal function, that innate ability for the body to to heal. Health is the natural state of the body. Diseases, not the natural state of it, something is interfering with normal function and normal healing abilities. And so that's where the five essential system differentiates us from, you know, 95% of the clinics out there is that those are the five key areas that cause the greatest amount of interference to normal function and healing. So we apply the five essentials system to every patient. And guess what, they get amazing health transformations. Very cool. Yeah.

Kelsey Harris:

So I'm curious, what are the five essentials?

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

Yeah, great question. I'm glad you asked. You know, given that I'm a chiropractor, and that, as doctors of chiropractic, we start by looking at the function of the spine, as it affects the nervous system. You know, as you know, the brain and the nervous system control absolutely everything in the body. You can't You can't live for one split second, without nerve supply, going to different tissues, that immediately starts to die. You know, if I cut the spinal cord, what happens, you know, you're paralyzed, if I cut the nerve, you know, go into the lungs, they stop breathing immediately that you you die, if you have, you know, have no supply, it controls all other systems, it's the master control system. But the only way it works is if it if the brain up here can send a signal down the spinal cord and out through the spinal nerves to every single cell tissue and organ in your body to tell them what to do. And vice versa, the body communicates up with the spine in this feedback loop. But it can only happen at 100% if there's no interference. So that's how we start is we, we, you know, we look at you and we say you, your nervous system controls everything it needs to function at 100%. So that's the first place we look what protects the nervous system and allows it to function at 100%. Well, that's where the spine comes in. And that's the only reason a Doctor of Chiropractic is interested in the spine, works with the spine has actually nothing to do with pain. chiropractic was never developed as a method to treat pain. It has everything to do with looking for the dysfunction in the spinal column, which whose job or which job is to protect the delicate neural tissue that lives inside of it. So we look at it as one unit, not not two separate things. It's one neuro spinal organ, it's it's improper to think of the spine as separate from the brain and nervous system. There, they have an intimate relationship. So essential number one, if you want to be healthy, if you if you expect to be free of pain, free of disease. throughout your life, you had better start with the master control system that controls everything else. So essential number one, have a healthy spine and nervous system. Because if you have spinal dysfunction if you have what we call subluxation. So a misalignment of the of the spine, that impinges on the The nervous system on the spinal cord itself or the nerve roots? Well, wherever those nerves go, you're going to have tissues on the other end that are not getting the proper signaling from the brain and vice versa and backup, that feedback loop, if you will, we describe it sometimes as a safety pin, you know, and the safety pin being open and disconnected if you have any type of spinal misalignments or dysfunction. So, essential number one rules over all other ones, when we take a look at a case history, we got to make sure that that, at the very least, is functioning to its best capabilities. And then the other ones, there are so many other things nowadays, that cause interference to normal function and cause disease to build in the body. And so we go down the line of what those are essential. Number two, you gotta have pure and simple nutrition entering your body, you can't, you can't, you can't just toxify it with processed foods, and damaged or damaged fats and oils, as delicious as a whole those things are, you know, like, I know you to be quite the foodie. You know, as am I, me and my fiance right now we're making our way through this amazing series called Chef's Table, I'm sure I'm sure. I'm sure you're a huge fan. Like there's no way you would have missed an episode. And so, one of the goals in life is to, you know, like, like, hit up a lot of those restaurants and chefs that are featured on that show, because we just love food. You know, however, as humans, we're, you know, we've done a quite a poor job of, you know, you know, eating the right types of foods on a regular enough basis that our cells can function normally. You know, you so we teach pure and simple nutrition, right. And we have we put people on certain plans, you know, and some plans are much more aggressive. And they're geared for the reversal of chronic disease. And it's not always an easy thing to adopt right away, if you've got 40 years of, you know, eating processed carbs, full of sugar and bad fats. And you're so nutrient deprived, you know, it's not, it's not always an easy thing for people to adopt. But it's a necessary thing, if you ever expect to function normally and have the ability to heal.

Kelsey Harris:

Right?

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

Right. So that's essential number two, essential number three, you, you have to move your body you have to, you can't you can't live a sedentary life and sit all day and look down at your phone and have rounded shoulders and you know, not get enough oxygen to all your tissues. So you there's a certain way that we teach our patients to move their bodies to exercise to maximize oxygen to all of those tissues that are so starved for most people. Right? Right get it if you have all the those other essentials and you know, you're missing one or the other, you're still you're still going to struggle with your health, you're still going to be missing a big piece of the puzzle. Essential number four is his his mindset and an emotional and psychological stress. Which boy, like have you like you know, you're you're you're finishing up your your master's in counseling. Unless you surely must have come across some recent statistics of what's happening in the world today with all of this fear about COVID despite how the statistics that keep coming out, continuously tell us how we actually don't have to fear this thing at all. You know, like we first thought back in March and April, when there were so many unknowns throughout that whole, you know, several months of the world being locked down and the fear being propagated every single minute of every day on the news. You know, there's there's an incredible spike, you know, but hundreds of percentages like higher than in normal times in things like suicide and depression and anxiety, anxiety medications being prescribed, like toxic, toxic things that hijack your brain hijack your body. Those are through the roof right now. Right? So you can't be healthy in that state. You can't be healthy if you've got brain altering chemicals, overriding your normal chemistry and your normal, you know, healthy healing mechanisms, if you will, a hormone production you can't be healthy, if that's being hijacked chemically, from an outside source like you know antidepressants Or an anti anxiety medication or combinations? excetera. Right. So, essential number four that we guide our patients through is to, you know, safely either wean off of those types of drugs, and we do it in coordination with their prescribing doctor, as well. And we, but we, we certainly we teach, and we talk and we preach about the importance of mindset and reduction of stress in your life.

Kelsey Harris:

Totally. You know, that's, that's a great point. And I mentioned in a previous episode, actually, that, you know, antidepressants are actually no better than a placebo. They weren't exactly she didn't just take a sugar pill, guys, it's so good to do the same thing, if you believe it's gonna work, and actually more effective to go to a therapist at that point. Yeah, definitely work with like a chiropractic team as well. And just, you know, 100% mindset is so important. And I volunteer at a Crisis Text Line, as well. And definitely, in the last, you know, six months, they had to bring on so many more volunteers, because the, when I back in like March, April, I would be sitting there and, you know, on my computer, texting these people, and the queue would be hot the whole time. And then, you know, obviously, it's less now because it's more volunteers. And it's been some time, but, you know, obviously, the huge, huge amount of stress and anxiety and depression and things that weren't as prevalent, were still prevalent, but not as prevalent before. Definitely now, so I think that's a great point you brought up and

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

so it's like, so we, so we teach on mindset, right? It's not like I have, you know, a treatment or an adjustment or a segment of the spine that, you know, all of a sudden, you're, you know, you're not depressed anymore, it's right, it doesn't really work like that. And we'll get into more about how, like how chiropractic works to help people a little later, if you want to, but, so it's more something that, you know, we teach that it isn't essential, if you want to be healthy, this is an area that you have to clean up in your life, you have a go go to a counselor, like safely, you know, like, you know, let's, let's have a plan between you, your medical doctor, your counselor, your Yeah, you know, to, to reduce the amount of emotional stress, psychological stress, because if you don't get this under control, you can never be healthy, essentially. Right. Cool. Cool thing about the adjustment, though, as it relates to mental health, it's not that there's a kind of like a mental health adjustment. But there's some really, really cool research that has been coming out in the last few years in neuroscience labs around the world. That show very clearly that after you receive a chiropractic adjustment, it has a neuro plastic effect on the brain.

Kelsey Harris:

Cool.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

So we all know that the brain is neuro we've all heard this term neuroplasticity mean your brain is essentially moldable can can learn new things create new neurological pathways, healthier neurological pathways, that can always be the be achieved with with the right approach, right. You know, whether that's a behavioral approach or a, you know, you know, you know, gaining more physical health alongside of that, and it's just, so there's all types of therapies that, you know, for self improvement and, and cognitive improvement. And so, we know, through years and years of those types of research that the brain is neuro plastic, what we didn't know, until now, is that one of the reasons why a chiropractic adjustment has such a deep and profound impact on the physical health and sometimes the mental health of the person. It's not just that less pain equals more happiness, like, obviously, that, you know, that has a big impact on the mental health, but it's the direct neuroplastic response of receiving a spinal adjustment. Again, it's that intimate relationship between the spine itself and the central nervous system, which are so intimately connected, you can't separate them, right. So you take a brain scan of somebody receiving a chiropractic adjustment is phenomenal to see which centers light up on fire, it's we're talking like the prefrontal cortex which has everything to do with decision better decision making and mood. So you're you're directly altering and improving those areas of the brain that are necessary. So in order to set the stage better for you to have improvements in mental health, in psychological health. Absolutely. Get a chiropractic adjust. on a regular basis because of the profound effect on the brain, you know, something we started seeing just a couple of years ago, as this research is coming out, which is explaining why people heal to begin with the brain is in control of everything, including your immune system, including your gut, including your heart, including the muscles in your pinky toe. And I think this the, you know, the brain is in charge of it. And so when you give somebody a chiropractic adjustment, it really is, it's all about what's happening to the brain, that's why people heal has nothing to do with, you know, the the joint itself, it's the way that joint when put back into better alignment, and freeing up the, you know, the biomechanics and restoring the normal biomechanics. It has everything to do with how that affects the neurology which is firing back up to the brain. And in a, in a healthier way. So the there's, there's bad firing patterns that happen when the spine is out of alignment. And that affects the brain, the brain is essentially a giant receptor, which is waiting to hear from your body, what's going on down there, the only way it hears and can see different parts of the body is through movement of the spine. We know from decades ago, through research that the spine acts as a motor for the brain.And without proper spinal motion, without proper spinal alignment, the brain suffers tremendously. So mindset, but also that physical component of setting the stage for having an easier time, you know, with the neurology up there is to have a healthy spine. So it all works together. To one effect, one of one affects the other. Right? So yeah, mindsets so important. And it just, it's just the act of reducing stress has a monstrous a positive impact on your physical health, for sure. It totally independent of what the spine and its condition is simply reducing stress. Right? essential, where are we out here as an essential five? Great, the big fifth essential that you can't skip over if you expect to be healthy as a human being in which we, we teach a lot about, especially in this modern world is minimizing toxicity to your body. And you can do all of the other things. And, you know, if you're still just, you haven't respected the natural order of things, and you still pound in back McDonald's every day, your, your, your toxifying your body through chemical toxicants if you're, you know, drinking, it's the same, same. same reasoning, as you know, don't don't drink polluted water. Right? Don't Don't, don't eat fish contaminated with mercury every day of your life. You know, you can't introduce toxins into your body toxicants and expect to be healthy, they have too big of an impact on your nervous system and different tissues that they accumulated. Right so health, health and the you know, like the the restoration of health or just maintaining your health has everything to do with mastering these five essential oils that we and Max living, you know, utilize to to help guide you know, every single patient that's in front of us, it's it's definitely not about when you come to our clinics, it's definitely not about getting you, you know, you get you're getting your neck or back cracked, right to make you feel a little better. I mean that that works, that's great. But unless you actually apply the five essentials and and adopt that as your your daily lifestyle. Don't expect to feel good for too long. You know, because we can definitely get somebody out of pain very quickly, just through chiropractic adjustments alone, right? But don't expect it to last. Don't expect it to solve all your problems. There are many layers of that onion to peel back if you come in with several symptoms or with a long health history. So even if you have no symptoms, we're still going to teach you about the five essentials because of how important they are to maintaining your good health. Make sense totally made that so that that's how we're different than 95% of other chiropractors that are solely just pain based. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, there's some really great practitioners out there. And they help people get out of pain, like, it's a very, very important part in health care that people can seek out because it's drug free. Yeah. It's natural, it moves them away from dangerous drugs and potential surgeries. So pain based chiropractic has a big role to play. I just, you know, what I hope people gathered from that is that if it's if you're just popping in to get your neck cracked, yeah, your headaches might get better, your back pain likely will get better, but not for very long.

Kelsey Harris:

Right?

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

If you still haven't cleaned up those other parts of your lifestyle, you have no idea yet how healthy you could be. So many things are missed, you know, like people go in for their neck pain, they're treated for the neck pain, but they also have a laundry list of drugs that they're taking, they have a laundry list of health issues that they're dealing with. And they have no idea that a chiropractor, trained in the five essentials, for example, has that physician level training to help guide them out of that swamp of sickness that they've been living in for so many years. So I just love what I get to do because it's completely drug free, it doesn't introduce anything into the body or doesn't remove anything from the body. And we see absolutely amazing results. With this approach.

Kelsey Harris:

Totally. Yeah, one of the reasons I love going to the chiropractor is because it's natural, and it's a great alternative to you know, with so many conditions like mine, where, you know, you go to your specialists, and they, you know, are definitely helpful, but they you know, prescribe a lot of drugs, and that's kind of it. I just see my like my rheumatologist was really good. And she actually suggested to me that I go see a chiropractor and that a physiotherapist and yeah, which was really cool, because I know a lot of doctors don't do that. So yeah, I definitely think that's that chirpractic care is very important.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

Yeah, there's definitely you don't, you don't often see that. That medical doctor who will one understand what it is that we do. Mm hmm. And to refer their sick patients to us for either a second opinion or just an adjunct, you know, therapy that to go along with the medical treatment, you just don't see a lot of that. And it's very, very unfortunate, because it's costing. I'm in the US here. So it's costing Americans you're in Canada, it's costing Canadians just a tremendous amount of their finances, their time there, they continue to suffer because both professions really are not on the same page. And there's a big difference in our approach. And it all comes down to the basically the philosophy behind what it is that we do. You see, like when I look at a patient in front of me, I already see perfection, I already see hope I already see the potential for them to heal, because I start from the premise that your body inherently, its natural state is health, right? I start from the premise that you are designed to heal. Meaning that like the intelligence that created you from two single cells, and the divided divided divided and then nine months later, you have this absolute breathing, living, breathing, you know, crying, pooping miracle in front of you. And that happened in nine months. And you didn't have to do a single thing to allow that to happen, right? Like there. Clearly there's an intelligence in there that's running the whole show. It's allowing you to breathe right now. And it's allowing you for your heart to adapt when you run up a flight of stairs, you don't have to press a button, you don't have to take a pill for your hearts to adapt to those different conditions or you come in contact with a different environment, your immune system kicks in and it's designed to recognize the outside like you don't have to think about it. That's the The major difference is that when I look at a patient, I first recognize that there is intelligence in there. They're designed to heal. But if they're sick, that means there's something interfering with that intelligent that innate intelligence that lives inside of all of us. There's something interfering with it, and your body doesn't need any help. It just needs to not be interfered with. Hmm, because once you remove interference and you do that, that's why the way the five essential system came about because those are the five big errors that cause interference to normal function. Once you remove interference in a person's body and their life in their mindset, like, just watch what happens, the person heals. And it happens every time. You know, like barring physical traumas that have caused like irreparable damage to the tissues, like if my arm gets cut off, I'm not growing a new arm, right? They're like, within the physical limitations of matter, as we know them, your body has the ability to heal, and it's remote, its ability to do so is remarkable. And it happens from the moment you're born, you're conceived to the moment you die, you never lose that innate intelligence that lives in every single one of your cells, that that same force, essentially, that created you and made you is still inside of you. Yeah. And so that's the difference, because when you go to the medical doctor, they just weren't not trained to look at the body the same way, they have a very, whereas, like, what what I described as a very vitalistic philosophy, okay, right, they this concept of universal intelligence, that's in all matter, and gives to it all of its properties. And, and within your living body, you have this innate intelligence that controls everything, and attempts at all times to, to, to maintain a certain balance. Like it's always doing the right thing at the right time, right. Whereas what I find with, with medical training, and, and don't get me wrong here, like I want, I want the audience to, like hear my heart here, like, medical doctors are wonderful people, with an incredible heart for serving and helping people, they're just approaching your body with a very different philosophy, and it's not their fault, it's just part of their training that gets ingrained in them, they quite literally look at the body as a mechanistic, like set of different parts. That essentially, you know, don't amount to a greater whole, with which, where that's where, like, that's where the decision making comes from my decision making as a clinician comes from a different philosophy. Mm hmm. So I'm not going to resort to a referral for a drug or a surgery as a first resort, because, well, the body can heal all on its own. Let's see what happens when you remove all the that's interfering right now. Because if you don't do that, you can take all the drugs and surgery that you want, but you're still at the end of the day, you're still producing disease, you're still breaking down. And yeah, you might be in less pain, because of that drug is overriding your your normal chemistry, but you're still sick on the inside. Right? Whereas the medical philosophy says that, well, you come in here with a list of symptoms, we will come up with a diagnosis, according to that combination of symptoms, that label that gets slapped on you is called the diagnosis. And then at the end of that diagnosis, there is a gold there is a sorry, a standard of care, which is what drug goes along with this diagnosis. And you cannot, as a medical doctor, you you have very little room to think outside of that box or your license. Essentially, as that state you can't, you know, deviate from the squat from the standard of care, it's called right or otherwise, that's, that's, you're liable. It's called malpractice. Right? So, you if you go in, you can expect to be diagnosed with, you know, whatever your set of symptoms is, is, is labeled as, and at the end of the diagnosis, there is a standard of care which there's this drug or that drug, or this surgery,

Kelsey Harris:

right?

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

But that's fine, you that's a choice, you can go that route, it's just, it's just not where I guide people as a first option, like you should never, you should never try that as a first option. Because there's typically when you get put on a drug, let's say like, let's, you know, like, let's, let's talk about statens or, you know, an anti depressant. For example, as to like, of the most commonly prescribed drugs, they give those out like candy at the end of that diagnosis, and that prescription, there typically is never, never a plan to get off of that drug.

Kelsey Harris:

Right? Exactly.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

There isn't the advice to look at that person's whole life style, to determine what are you doing potentially to interfere with your body's natural ability to heal itself? It's like that's completely ignored that the body can and does heal itself constantly. Yeah, if you have a fever, we're reducing the fever. Well, hold on a second. If you believe that the body is intelligent and is always healing, then that fever is an intelligent healing mechanism right? Your body, your body is so unbelievable a healing, it can raise its own body temperature. Now it's a good point. Like I studied microbiology, I studied viruses and I studied bacteria. And you learn pretty quickly like in in 101 classes, that every bacteria has a different thermal threshold, it cannot live outside these very thin parameters, these very thin thermal thresholds, you go above a certain temperature, the bacteria dies, you go below a certain temperature, and it's a very small margin, the bacteria dies, your body is so stinking intelligent, that it raises its own body temperature higher than what that bacteria can live in, and it kills it. And what do we do? As a society, we get trained to think that our body is because we have a symptom, our body is malfunctioning, we have to chemically override that intelligence. Right. Let's Let's reduce the fever. Yeah, well, well, that just prolongs the illness, right. And then you got to deal from the toxicity issues of the, of the drug you're taking, right. And so going back to like, the antidepressants and, and cholesterol drugs, that and drugs like the the assumption is that our bodies are malfunction, our bodies are genetically broken, our bodies do not have the intelligence to self heal, and self regulate and self maintain. So if you start from that philosophical, you know, grounding, of course, your answer is going to be a drug, that that's the only thing that makes sense. If my body does not have the ability to heal, and fight on its own, and always try it is not actually always trying to reach a homeostasis. So hold on homeostasis, simply put, it's just a state of balance, you got too much of that hormone being produced, your body's going to down regulate it, you've got too much of this bacteria growing, your body's going to raise a fever to kind of down regulate the growth of that bacteria, it's always striving for a balance, you run up a flight of stairs, your heart races for that time being to adapt to that excessive amount of oxygen and blood needed for the tissues. Well, once that exercise is done, your body goes back down. It's called homeostasis. It's always trying to reach balance, right? But if you start from the philosophy, that your body is malfunctioning in those moments, then the only thing that makes sense, is yes, take the drug. Because if my body is not actually doing something intelligent, if it's not actually healing, yeah, give me the drug. Otherwise, I've got no chance of healing. So you create with that model, with that philosophy, from birth till death, you have created a lifelong customer, of the pharmaceutical industry, and the medical profession, which essentially, you know, they, they end up working in a very broken system, during the bidding of the pharmaceutical industry. And it's very unfortunate, because, you know, I don't know a doctor that went into it with those intentions, right. But they simply get caught up working in a very broken, very backwards philosophy of health system. You know, if you look at, you know, how much that's costing us, like, you know, let's just take take American citizens, I'm in the US now, right? Like, nobody spends more on their health and Americans totally. We spend upwards of like, over three and a half trillion dollars, trying to be healthy every year. That's crazy. bankrupting the country, it's the number one cause of bankruptcy in Americans, right is medical debt, trying to get healthy doing all of the procedures, taking all the drugs, we're 5% of the world's population here in the US, but we take, we take about 80% of the world's drugs. If you if you just isolate that to antidepressants, and those types of categories, like anti anxiety, antidepressants, we actually take over 90% of the world's supply of drugs of those categories. That's unreal. But so let me ask you a question. With all that effort, with all that money spent every year on health care, what do you suspect the outcomes should be? Yeah, I mean, like outcome should be that us is a very healthy population. But we also know that's untrue. We, correct we, we we should be the most healthy. Yeah. Because we spend the most amount and the most time and effort and we have the best trained doctors we use the most and the best technology, the latest technology. We have the most amount of all of that. And on top of that, we take most of the drugs, and we perform the most surgery. So we should be, in theory, the healthiest country in the world. But where do we rank? The World Health Organization constantly ranks us dead last of all industrialized nations. Wow, we have the worst of any industrialized nations. And even worse than several third world countries, we have the worst infant mortality rate. And that's something that we're doing is not working. And it always comes down to and I can't emphasize this enough, it comes down to what is your personal philosophy about your health? Do you believe that your body is inherently intelligent, and always trying to do the right thing at the right time? Like that fever example?

Kelsey Harris:

Mm hmm.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

Like, your body's doing the right thing at the right time to try to heal, right? Or do you believe that you're you are inherently designed like a machine to just break down at a certain point, or genetically defective? You know, which, if you dig into some of the research on genetics, that's fascinating, you know, like, we used to think that your genes were your destiny, and, you know, I, this runs in my family, and that runs in my family. And so I'm, I'm just, I'm destined to die of this and develop that. Well, if you actually look at the research, you know, you'll quickly find out that, you know, 95, to 98%, of all chronic illnesses, are completely environmental and lifestyle related. And there's only a select few that are true genetic defects that happen. Meaning that that's such a hopeful message to me. That, that, that, that screams hope, that means you're in control, you're in control of your destiny and your health, in a very, very large part that you can actually control with your decisions, using the five essential system as an example of an excellent blueprint on where to start looking for what might be interfering with with your health. Yeah, that covers a large amount of possibilities. And it's a great place for people to start. So like, yeah, if you're gonna start with a philosophy that your body's broken, then yeah, the drug makes sense. Of course, the surgery's gonna make sense, you're gonna have no objection to that doctor's visit who's trying to put you on a cholesterol drug, trying to give you an anti inflammatory, trying to give you you know, a lifetime sentence of being on an immune suppressing drugs, because of your autoimmune condition, which you've been told is simply bad luck, bad genes. And here's this horrific, horrific, life altering drug that you're going to be on for the rest of your life, like talk about ripping hope from people. Yeah. And then enter, enter the world of chiropractic and especially those that practice in a very vitalistic way that teach their patients about that intelligence that lives inside of them, that their bodies are always doing the right thing at the right time, that they actually can take control of their own health through these different lifestyle. Things like mindset and nutrition and exercise and avoiding toxicity to the best of your ability and learning about those things. And getting a spinal adjustment on a regular basis actually correcting the spine like we do. In our clinic here. It's beyond just getting an adjustment. It's actually looking at the entire state of the spine. And actually correcting it, right. nonsurgically remarkable, right? So talk about a hopeful outlook verse versus a dead end, fear based kind of Outlook towards life. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Like we like we call ourselves like hope dealers. Yeah, on a regular basis, because people come in and see us often as a last resort, and they just they're hopeless, right, hopeless. And then, you know, after after going, you know, through a few consults with us, there, all of a sudden, they light up and they're filled with hope again, and that's what I wish for everybody listening, is that good. God, there's so much hope for you.

Kelsey Harris:

Mm hmm.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

You like, it is true that certain conditions, you know, have done a certain amount of damage and certain people will always have a certain level of pain or suffering depending on what's interfering, right. If it's permanent tissue damage, then of course, and it's understandable, and then there's a time and a place for things like drugs and surgeries, I would never wish to live in a world that did not have access to the best drugs and the best surgery, right? Those are to be used in emergencies, though, for the for the majority. As a last resort, you've tried literally tried and literally tried everything else. You know sometimes for a few years to try to get your body to detox and to heal and, and to have less interference. Yeah, then the drug makes sense. The surgery sometimes makes sense. emergencies. That's the only thing that makes sense. If I'm bleeding out, I'm not coming to hear my office.

Kelsey Harris:

Right? Exactly

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

like a meet me meet me at the hospital. And then Well, I'm glad they exist. But we use that model of emergency care, which we do have the best in the world in Canada and the US we have the best in the world. Right? We use that in that emergency medicine, and we use it as a one size fits all for every condition for every everybody from the time they're born to the time that we use that same philosophy of intervening. Yeah, you have a symptom, we are going to intervene. Yeah. And it's just the wrong approach. People are suffering massively because of that. And I, we just were such an anomaly. In chiropractic. We're such our results are so unfortunately, they're so anomalous compared to what's happening in the rest of healthcare.

Kelsey Harris:

Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, like, so basically, what I'm hearing is that basically, we were doing everything backwards, we should be seeing the chiropractor first. And then, you know, barring that, you know, nothing gets better than we go to a doctor, for example,

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

well, let me talk about that. Seeing a chiropractor first idea. Not necessarily. Like that's, that's, that's every individual's choice about for sure, who they choose to have as their primary care doctor, as a doctor with physician level training, and as like, like legally recognized as a primary care physician. Yes, you and your family can certainly hire a chiropractor as your family doctor. What do you think the odds of you being pointed towards drugs and surgery as the first option when you visit that family doctor, as opposed to your medically trained? Right, you know, like, so? Is it a good idea to have a chiropractor at least I would at least have one on your healthcare team. Yeah, at least have one on your healthcare team that you can go to for a second opinion. I was raised in chiropractic. So I've only ever known that kind of practice to be my doctors, right? Like I've never, I'm 41 years old. Now. I've never synced. I've never ever been a single time to a medical. I've never been to a medical doctor ever. You know, in 41 years of life, I've never been given a drug. I i've never, there was just there was just never a need. Now, like, I've been to the emergency room a couple of times in my life. You know, when I slice the tip of my finger off, you know, had just moved to Vancouver. And was just like, I was a first time out of the house. I was learning to cook on my own. I was not very not very skilled with a chef's knife. Oh boy, like, like, I sliced the tip of my finger off. You know, like, I did not call my cousins who were in town who were chiropractors. Like, I did not go see them. I went to the hospital. I got that thing stitched up, you know. Yeah. But yeah, having. So for anyone listening who's, you know, may not have known this about chiropractors training, if you break down the actual, like classroom hours of education in our, you know, postgraduate studies, it matches up very similarly to a medical doctors classroom hours of education and similar topics, where they'll have more hours after that four year degree where they get their medical degree and where they'll have more hours than us is in things like biochemistry and pharmacology and toxicology. Like they, they, your life is on the line if they make a mistake with your prescription. Right. Great. And even properly prescribed medications, though, are still one of the top causes of death in the United States properly prescribed medications giving up the right dose at the right time, they still kill hundreds of 1000s of people. So it's like they're the risk is huge. And the liability is huge. So they spend infinitely more time in medical school. Like dealing with those liability issues those raise those those you know, the the potential outcomes of improperly prescribing a drug

Kelsey Harris:

you know, it's it that's really interesting because last year I had strep throat so naturally went to the walk in and the doctor that I first sees like, I don't really think you have strep throat but then he did this test anyway. And I did and then he prescribed something and I went to the pharmacist to pick it up and pharmacists like you can't have just like looks at all the other medications I'm on and says you can have this one. I mean To give you something different because what he prescribed you will come like you will be fucked, basically.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

Good lord. Yeah, but that happens, that happens,

Kelsey Harris:

right?

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

And they're honest mistakes, but they do kill people. Right? So they have to spend a heck of a lot more time in school than we do as chiropractors, learning about pharmacology and toxicology. Because they quite literally, and often do kill people without realizing it, and, you know, so it's very, very unfortunate if you're going to play around with drugs. Yeah. So, I wouldn't personally but so, but guess what, because I didn't spend, you know, all those extra hours in pharmacology and toxicology classes get guess what I was getting guess what was part of my curriculum that exceeds like far exceeds any medical curriculum out there. Even Harvard, I have way more spinal anatomy physiology, hours under my belt, I have far more radiology and x three hours under my belt. So it's, it's not well known that a chiropractor coming out of school has primary care, physician level training, and with an emphasis in key areas that are going to be quite beneficial to you getting healthy, because of our understanding of human anatomy and physiology, and radiology. The competency is quite high, even coming out of school, nevermind all the postgraduate stuff that we often do, and we our education continues with postgraduate training and maintaining our license every year with continuing education. And so I'm not sure you know, given that less than 10% of the population even sees a chiropractor. It's it's quite, it's quite possible that there's still a huge misconception as to what a chiropractor even is, most most people just see us as somebody to go see when there's neck pain.

Kelsey Harris:

Yeah, totally.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

And while that is true, we are definitely your best option for getting out of chronic pain or acute pain, and getting you back up on your feet again and back to work or back to school are back doing the sports are back doing the activities that you love, you know, are being removed from your life because of these pain issues. Yes, like chiropractic is the drug free option, and the fastest road back to recovery?

Kelsey Harris:

Totally

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

because we're working with the musculoskeletal system, we're working with the central nervous system directly, you know, which affects how the brain perceives pain. So yeah, it's quite, it's quite remarkable when you look into pain science and how the spine modulates and, and communicates with the brain, what's going on with pain signals, and it explains very well why we get such amazing results with reducing physical pain in the body. So right, you know, but but there's so much more. Boy, I wish people understood that there's so much more, you literally could have a chiropractor as a primary care physician. And sure, there might be medical people, doctors and nurses listening right now that they might take offense to that, because this goes, this goes completely against the grain this goes completely against the story that they were raised on. And they might, you know, have had bad experiences with chiropractors, they might see patients that have been injured by chiropractors and have nothing good to say about us that all of that is true. You know, but if you look at who the safer profession is to visit, I mean just take your take your your personal example of when you went to get diagnosed and you got a prescription for a strep throat and you know the the pharmacist luckily intervened. Yeah, thing, right. So there's a lot of potential dangers that exist if you're going to go the drug route, even over the counter stuff, you know, like, even over the counter drugs kill people every year they kill 1000s 1000s of people. So what you're not going to get by visiting a chiropractor and having one on your healthcare team as either a second opinion or like, like I was raised as your primary care doctor which a lot of the families in our clinic, we are their primary care doctor, you're not going to get that that inherent risk that comes with going to a hospital going to the medical doctor like I estrogenic disease and nosocomial disease those two words mean doctor induced or hospital induced death. Okay. Right or disease, nosocomial or eye estrogenic disease or death. Those are doctor or hospital induced death. It's a large part of the death count every year. And it's it's doesn't necessarily have to happen. But it's just that there's this, this this risk when you're playing with drugs and surgeries and cutting, cutting body parts out and taking drugs for this symptom, overriding your body's natural intelligence and chemistry, there's going to be risks. And those risks are never properly communicated there and glossed over. I don't feel like there's proper informed consent. And the whether you have an autoimmune condition or chronic headaches, or, or strep throat, I don't believe that there's enough informed consent happening about the potential risks. Right. So as a as a Doctor of Chiropractic, those risks just don't exist. Yeah. When you come and see a chiropractor, and just, I mean, who better to us to assess the risk of going to the doctor than the insurance companies? Who back us who who provide me with the liability protection? Under my license, right, right. So if you look at the different types of doctors around the world, they're all there, they all have these risk assessment when when you go to renew your license. And the insurance company knows exactly what the level of risk is, by growing to see you versus another type of doctor or a surgeon versus, like this type of surgeon in this specialty versus a family doctor, they all have different liability insurances to pay every year they maintain their license, some pay hundreds of 1000s per year, because of the inherent risk of cutting someone open.

Kelsey Harris:

Right?

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

So to talk to further to the safety of going to a chiropractor, for your health issues. I have the lowest malpractice insurance of any type of doctor in the world.

Kelsey Harris:

Wow.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

It's It's It's less from my license every year than it is from my car insurance. Wow. versus some medical specialties, which of course, you're doing brain surgery, you're gonna pay hundreds of 1000s of dollars for just to maintain your license. That makes sense, because the inherent built in risk, which, you know, that's just goes without saying that's not that shouldn't be a surprise, you know? And again, I'm not saying that those professions aren't doing an immense amount of good, I believe they are. I just believe the whole system is broken. I believe that people from birth on are trained to only seek medical answers only. And, you know, there's interesting studies that have come out that by the time a kid is 18 years old, they've already sat in front of 24,000 hours of pharmaceutical drug ads.

Kelsey Harris:

Wow.

Dr. Steph Bohemier:

So the if you think that there's a brainwashing going on? Yeah, yeah, there it is. You know, so it's, it's not it's not anybody's fault, it's certainly not the doctors fault, they're simply working in a broken system. And if I could, you know, enter the conversation and help people come off of drugs, not because I personally take them off of but because I restore health to their bodies, if I can prevent somebody from ever having to go on, on drugs, prevent them from ever developing a devastating condition later in life. Like, those are my interests, I am all about prevention and, and building health, restoring health, teaching people about how amazing their bodies are. It's just wonderful what I get to do every day on a daily basis, and we get to see such amazing transformations. And so that's how I wish people viewed chiropractors is not just as the the back and back and neck pain, crack, cracking doctors, like, you know, it's, it's actually you can actually utilize a chiropractor as your primary care physician and be better off and healthier and live, you know, a drug free pain free life, if you do it properly from early on enough, which is why we check, we check kids for, for what we call subluxation. So the dysfunction of the spine that might affect the nervous system and affect the way that their bodies and organs developed later on in life. And so, you know, kids that get started early as I did as a child, end up becoming such incredibly healthy adults. Like I said, I'm 41 I've never ever been to a medical doctor, I've never been given a drug, you know. So my goal in life is to teach people how easy that is and how realistic that is. So that was part one with my interview with Dr. stuff. If you enjoyed that, then definitely tune in to next week's episode.

Kelsey Harris:

Thank you so much for joining me today on the chronically living podcast. If you love this week's podcast, please subscribe, rate and leave a review. Until next week, stay strong.